Testimonials
OnTheOche
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TESTIMONIALS
Below you can find what has been said about the service by both our members and by independant reviewers.
Independant Reviews
Secret Betting Club
The Secret Betting Club is an independant members only service that reviews tipping services, betting systems etc in order to recommend to their members what they feel are the best services out there. In September 2008 SBC reviewed OnTheOche and granted it a Highly Recommended status and a mark of 4 stars out of 5.
In December 2008 that status was upgraded to a Hall Of Fame status. Only 14 services out of the 100's and 100's that SBC have reviewed have made it to the Hall Of Fame so it is certainly a massive seal of approval.
SBC updates their marks for services every month in their monthly newsletters and the current marks for OnTheOche (as of May 09) are:
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Patience: 6 months
Rating: BUY
Service summary:
On The Oche is operated by one man, Richard Anderson, who explains on his website
why he is qualified to supply darts betting advice. He has been specializing in betting
on darts for over 12 years, and has made a consistent profit on the sport during this
time. He also has regular contact with many of the players on the circuit and is
therefore aware of who is in and out of form, as well as knowing who to watch for the
future.
All selections are sent via email alongside a lengthy description as to its choosing. You
are usually supplied with at least 24 hrs notice before an event starts in which to place
your bet. Richard runs a very good service and has been very easy to deal with and
happy to co-operate with all of us. There was an issue with odds of non televised
events, but now there have been some changes to the service and odds are holding up
very well indeed."
You can visit the SBC website here
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ProGambler
The following review is from ProGambler (www.progambler.co.uk) who investigate betting services and systems. This review was published in July 2009.
"With the majority of sports tipsters concentrating on Racing, football and golf it’s always nice to look at services ploughing their own distinctive furrow.
One such service is On The Oche (OTO) the brain child of darts expert Richard Anderson. We have been monitoring the service for over 10 months now (20/7/08 - 7/6/09) at Progambler and feel it time to bring you up to date with the numbers and to put our opinion on record.
Why OTO?
The service first came to our attention in July last year when it seemed to consistently garner plaudits on the more discerning forums and message boards. As OTO offer a diversification into a sport which could be ripe for a betting boom we considered it essential that we check this service out on your behalf – our main reason being that surely it makes sense to build a punting portfolio across the sporting spectrum?
I think increasingly, this diversification angle should be a key consideration for anyone who follows tipster services with a portfolio mentality. All sports can suffer unfathomably adverse betting periods and it pays to have some balance in your roster so as not to be relying too heavily on any one sport or service.
After a ‘toe in the water’ free month’s trial membership we’d made an impressive 59.1pts profit. At that point I discussed with Rich the possibility of Progambler proofing his service - and here we are 10 months later.
This proofing period also records a period of (positive) change for OTO, with the most fundamental decision being the move to concentrating on the Live TV events from about Nov 2008 onward.
That's not to say that OTO only covers televised events, more so that they only advise official proofable bets for them on their account – simply to reflect the variable betting liquidity in their chosen medium’s various competitions. With the low-key, so-called "floor" events, which are not priced up across the board, Rich generally provides a write up on them offering advice to members who want to get involved.
The reason for this change of emphasis was simple. OTO, with an ever-increasing membership which Rich quite rightly capped, has seen the amount of cash backing OTO's selections increasing as a reflection of the service’s success.
This has obviously been reflected in the lack of layers’ enthusiasm for holding prices on Rich’s selections – particularly in the lesser events. As we all know the ability to obtain prices on advised selections for any service is paramount and managing member numbers and betting to reflect the available positive liquidity is the cross that successful services simply have to bear.
With the TV events the picture is markedly different as the liquidity in these markets, and the number of bookies pricing up is much, much bigger. Rich quite rightly moved his focus to these higher profile events, and the all important fact that these events in the previous months had been the most profitable, meant that this was almost without question the right way to go.
How did OTO actually perform? Well before I add the context here are the all important numbers:
Number of tips: 153
Outlay: 1,325.50pts
Return: 1,556.68pts
Profit: 231.18pts
% ROI: 17.44%
1pt Level Stake Profit 41.65pts
1pt Level Stakes % ROI: 27.22%
Average stake per bet: 8.66pts
Level Average Stake profit: 360.82pts
As you can see, some nice solid numbers with a strong, healthy ROI.
Quite importantly however, the stats suggest that to follow a level stakes approach was more profitable for this period than following strictly to the advised staking. That is not to say that this trend would definitely continue but it is certainly worth bearing in mind when deciding on a staking plan with which to follow the service.
OTO averages about 3 or 4 tips per week however the reality is that here are periods of frantic, sometimes twice daily, activity and then quiet periods which can sometimes run into weeks. To make this service work you need to be able to access e-mail at various times of the day. Thankfully Rich is very good at flagging up advance notice of when he is likely to put out his selections. I would also say that you need to be quick on the prices although often even if you are not on the best prices you should get close to them. Generally best and next best prices tend to last for up to an hour after they have been advised.
Straying back to the results, the fact that level staking seemed so much more profitable led me to the theory that the longer priced selections were where the true profit was hiding – a fact, if true, that isn’t reflected in Rich’s staking. My hunch is level staking is the way ahead here.
On The Oche is pretty uncommon as a tipping service in that it offers bets ranging anywhere from 1.44 to 51.0. The vast majority of the bets are odds on or close to it, reflecting a sport of two man, head to head contests. Darts is a sport, and this is a style of betting, that should suit those who favour maintaining short losing runs over regularly backing big priced selections. Although, as I stated earlier that is not to say there are no opportunity to experience the thrill of a double digit winner such as Colin Osbourne finishing second in June’s UK Open at 50/1 ew.
These results prove OTO have a massive edge when it comes to the outright betting and are still profitable in the busier more cut throat match betting that obviously represents the lion’s share of their bet volume. From this summary it is clear that getting the prices is not nearly as important on the outright betting as it is in the match bets – and that is a key point worthy of consideration.
As for the 10 month period itself, well, undoubtedly there were highs and there were lows with the highs, I am pleased to say, far outweighing the lows.
Some of The Highs
Dennis Priestley winning his quarter in the World Matchplay
Dennis Priestey winning the Kitchener Open
Seven winning bets out of seven in the European Open as part of 10 bet winning streak
Tony O'Shea winning his quarter in the BDO World Darts Championships
James Wade winning the Premier League
Jelle Klassen finishing bottom of the Premier League
Colin Osbourne finishing second in the UK Open
Special mention goes to the Osbourne bet which was a piece of inspired tipping. OTO put the selection up at 50/1 (1/2 odds to reach final) and Osbourne was outstanding cruising to the final only finding the legend that is Phil The Power Taylor one too good on this occasion.
The Lows
A 6 tip losing streak during the Champions League
Adrian Lewis failing to beat Kirk Shepherd when advised at odds of 1.44
Kevin Painter failing to beat Toy Eccles when advised at 1.57
A 20pt bet on Kirk Shepherd to be eliminated from the Champions league at 1.50 coming unstuck
As you can see I was well nigh clutching at straws when looking for ‘genuine’ lows (in the name of journalistic balance). A longest losing streak of 6 tips is something many services would offer up their right arms for.
As for the rest, the Champions League is the competition where OTO performed worst and importantly Rich appears to have analysed this carefully with a view to improving his returns next time. The competition’s quick fire format, he feels, will inform a more cautious approach next year. Indeed this was the first year of Champions League darts and its unique format is clearly a massive factor in throwing up shock results.
So let’s look at the key aspects of this service.
This service is profitable to both advised and level staked approach, the customer service is excellent (and Gregor would argue second to none).
Rich is straightforward to communicate with and very importantly he explicitly understands that his service must evolve and change along with the environment it operates in if it wants to keep making good profits for its members. OTO has without doubt got an excellent handle on the darts scene. The write ups are a nice balance too, being involved enough to engage the reader and relay the reasons behind the bet without recourse to needless waffle.
Who would suit this service?
I would say it suits anyone who doesn't mind backing short price selections and who is looking to add diversity to their portfolio. At £99 per six months, I believe OTO to be at the more affordable end of the market and certainly I would think anyone considering this service would have to be looking to stake at least £5-£10 per point minimum. Equally £50 or £100 level stakes would also reflect an entry level investment level to give the desired return whilst covering subscriptions and hassle factor.
An additional, and underplayed, aspect is also that OTO is very much a service for the punting voyeurs out there - those that like the emotional roller coaster of watching their bets in running. Darts is a brilliant betting sport and, at its best, it is fabulously entertaining armchair viewing. The sport, like all pub games, is simply made for betting, yet it is only in recent years that the bookies have cottoned on. Latterly, they have really taken the game by the scruff of the neck and along with the TV companies, the betting firms sponsorships have started to inject the much needed cash that will allow darts to develop and grow to the next level. Crowds are well up too and it’s great to watch the majority of the matches played in packed houses with electric and partisan atmospheres.
I would have no hesitation in recommending On The Oche to any interested parties without reservation and I would suggest that Progambler members register their interest with this service by placing their details on Rich’s waiting list to join if they don’t get a place this time."
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Customer Testimonials
Below you can find the latest comments from OnTheOche members regarding the service. All were made inthe last few weeks, were unsolicited and are 100% genuine.
COMMENTS |
"Well done on the UK Open. A tricky little tournament but good analysis and bets"
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"Just came back off holiday and seen that the 50/1 colin osborne bet you tipped just before I went won! Holiday paid for! Great work mate - you are the man! |
"Hi Rich, I have just paid the 99.99 to carry on with you for another 6 months. Im sure as with the last 99.99 it will be money very well spent. Keep up the good work"
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"Well done Rich a great UK Open, after the Klassen and Wade bets in the Premier league, we had a great profit in this tournament and to top it off a 50/1 shot made the final and the each way money came in. Great tipping considering there were i think 126 players to start with. |
"Hi Rich, Thanks for the review and the nice profits over the last few days. I was close to laying out some profits on Osbourne when he went 3-0 up but then that opportunity disappeared pretty quickly once PT started on his roll.
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"Great work, a successful tournament!"
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"Hi Rich, Great result.Shame on Co Stompe and the way he has gave up when he was ahead - that treble could transform good weekend into a VERY good one. And if only Tabern could win.... it would be a fantastic profit for us circa 100 pts. |
"although he didnt win....pulling a 50/1 out of the hat like that ....your pretty damn impressive....and btw I always do all your bets to level stakes coz most of ur profits are from the antepost bets....so for me your level stakes 50/1 placer has just paid for the next 6 months :)!!!! |
"Nice one Rich, fortune favours the brave."
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"Rich, Win or lose the semi or the final, Osborne at 50/1 was a great call. Good luck for this evening!"
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"had heard good things about ur service prior to joining and can now see why. Excellent start, look forward to tonights bets"
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"Rich, due to personal circumstances I am going to have to cancel my membership....... |
"well done on your Prem league results esp the wade and klaasen bets. great foresight. is a good feeling knowing iv got someone on my side that knows more than the bookies do about what im betting on. roll on the next event" |
"Hi Rich, Just got an email this morning from StanJames that they are paying out in full on the Klaasen bet. Just want to say thanks for your help in this matter it has been a big help to me. I'm pretty certain they wouldnt have paid out without your intervention and help in getting my case together. |